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UFE准备小小体会。。给没有本地学历的同行。

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛终于考过,没给中国CPA丢脸。。呵呵。。

我是没有在北美读过书的,先是用中国的学历考了美国CPA,然后用美国CPA转CA,由于是先移民才考的美国CPA,所以需要补Business Law,从CKE开始,否则可以直接考一种加美互认考试,据说很这种考试简单很多。。

1. SOA的案例。。虽然没有一个人说学了有助于考试,都抱怨浪费时间,但自己感觉非常有用,因为涉及各行各业和各种需要用到CA的情况,可以加强对UFE题目背景的了解,理解答题思路。特别是什么棒球俱乐部什么的类型,如果没有看SOA,哪能会知道还有什么主场比赛和客场比赛收入差别,俱乐部分成。。队员抽签。。。今年的UFE中至少两题是和今年的SOA学习案例有些相似。。当时也没好好看SOA案例,只是依稀记得。。考试时后悔呀。。但至少是面熟的,所以节省了去琢磨背景知识的时间。。同时,SOA案例覆盖了主要的考点。。特别是本年IFRS。。SOA案例和UFE的考点基本重合。。

2。放弃计算出最精确答案的冲动。。我是非常容易沉迷于计算出唯一准确答案的。。浪费时间不加分,毫无意义。。其实只要有点象就好了。这是看07 08 年考生答案的体会。。比如起个房子,搭了架子,有盖个结实的房子的可能就行,至于雕梁画栋,对通过没有帮助。。反而浪费搭架子的时间。。

3. 套话套话。。就像准备Tofel的八股文。。一个以前考过的朋友经验。。她连following or as follows都比较过那个打字更顺手。。我是从标准答案里整理一些利落的句子。。在思考问题的时候顺手打上。达到以不变应万变的效果。。

4。 不言放弃。。。在整个过程中,我真的很郁闷。比如在UFE的模拟考中,阅卷人善意提醒我字打慢些,competent 的CA需要正确的语法和拼写。她哪知我是根本就不懂什么是正确的语法,拼写更是需要电脑帮助。何况我本来就字打的慢,一般的小案例我最多写三页,大的能写到9页10页就不错了。。但几位朋友的经验告诉我,坚持就是胜利。。其中一位说当年考了第一天,就不想继续了,她老公说,当实地练习嘛。。就这样过了。。

回头看,这里的考试再难,在知识点考察方面比不上中国的考试难。。考试通过比例就说明问题。。相信自己。。语法不好,拼写不好,但也总有小部分人会犯比语法和拼写更多的错误。。

当然。。职业发展重要的还是语言沟通。。考试本身只是第一步。。

祝大家周末愉快!更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • UFE准备小小体会。。给没有本地学历的同行。
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛终于考过,没给中国CPA丢脸。。呵呵。。

    我是没有在北美读过书的,先是用中国的学历考了美国CPA,然后用美国CPA转CA,由于是先移民才考的美国CPA,所以需要补Business Law,从CKE开始,否则可以直接考一种加美互认考试,据说很这种考试简单很多。。

    1. SOA的案例。。虽然没有一个人说学了有助于考试,都抱怨浪费时间,但自己感觉非常有用,因为涉及各行各业和各种需要用到CA的情况,可以加强对UFE题目背景的了解,理解答题思路。特别是什么棒球俱乐部什么的类型,如果没有看SOA,哪能会知道还有什么主场比赛和客场比赛收入差别,俱乐部分成。。队员抽签。。。今年的UFE中至少两题是和今年的SOA学习案例有些相似。。当时也没好好看SOA案例,只是依稀记得。。考试时后悔呀。。但至少是面熟的,所以节省了去琢磨背景知识的时间。。同时,SOA案例覆盖了主要的考点。。特别是本年IFRS。。SOA案例和UFE的考点基本重合。。

    2。放弃计算出最精确答案的冲动。。我是非常容易沉迷于计算出唯一准确答案的。。浪费时间不加分,毫无意义。。其实只要有点象就好了。这是看07 08 年考生答案的体会。。比如起个房子,搭了架子,有盖个结实的房子的可能就行,至于雕梁画栋,对通过没有帮助。。反而浪费搭架子的时间。。

    3. 套话套话。。就像准备Tofel的八股文。。一个以前考过的朋友经验。。她连following or as follows都比较过那个打字更顺手。。我是从标准答案里整理一些利落的句子。。在思考问题的时候顺手打上。达到以不变应万变的效果。。

    4。 不言放弃。。。在整个过程中,我真的很郁闷。比如在UFE的模拟考中,阅卷人善意提醒我字打慢些,competent 的CA需要正确的语法和拼写。她哪知我是根本就不懂什么是正确的语法,拼写更是需要电脑帮助。何况我本来就字打的慢,一般的小案例我最多写三页,大的能写到9页10页就不错了。。但几位朋友的经验告诉我,坚持就是胜利。。其中一位说当年考了第一天,就不想继续了,她老公说,当实地练习嘛。。就这样过了。。

    回头看,这里的考试再难,在知识点考察方面比不上中国的考试难。。考试通过比例就说明问题。。相信自己。。语法不好,拼写不好,但也总有小部分人会犯比语法和拼写更多的错误。。

    当然。。职业发展重要的还是语言沟通。。考试本身只是第一步。。

    祝大家周末愉快!更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 恭喜! UFE考试听起来就恐怖
    • 祝贺祝贺!
    • 不容易不容易,恭喜拉。那种感觉刻骨铭心,比高考更胜一筹。
      • Thanks
        • 佩服! 只有肯努力,即使没有北美学历,CA也是有可能的。中国的CPA确实难啊,毕竟只有单科10%的通过率。
    • 能说说怎么从美国CPA转加拿大的CA呢?要补几门? 我问过CGA, 美国CPA对CGA没帮助... 谢谢!
      • Here are the educational requirements for US CPAs to become CAs, CGAs and CMAs in Ontario.
        US CPA to CA (reciprocity path)
        only CARE exam

        US CPA to CA (not through reciprocity)
        course in Canadian business law
        the Core-Knowledge Examination (CKE)
        the School of Accountancy (SOA)
        UFE exam

        US CPA to CGA
        Personal & Corporate Taxation (TX1) challenge exam
        Issues in Professional Practice (PA1) challenge exam
        Strategic Financial Management (PA2) challenge exam

        US CPA to CMA
        required to complete the Strategic Leadership Program, including the Case Examination and the Board Report
        • where do you get these info? Can you post a link? Thanks!
          • Links inside
            CPA to CMA
            http://www.cma-ontario.org/index.cfm?ci_id=7783&la_id=1#003

            CPA to CGA
            • Thanks a lot!!!
          • From US CPA to CGA, only Personal & Corproate atxation (TXA) Issue in Professional Practice (PA1) challenge exam Strategic Financial Management(PA2) challenge exam Really?
            • Yes, that's assuming you are a licensed CPA.
      • 据说ICAO最近又改了规则。。但去年还是这样。。我是科罗拉多州注册,就按照其他协会会员的类别进行报名。。只要补Business Law一门。。
        • Colorado is not a substantially equivalent State and does not qualify for reciprocity.
      • Membership Candidacy
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Membership Candidacy

        In order to apply as a membership candidate, the accounting body you are associated with either through current or previous membership must be listed as "recognized" and you must have passed the final examination of that accounting body. If you are a US CPA, you must hold a CPA certificate in good standing (or a CPA certificate and a licence) issued by a state board of accountancy which has adopted the 150 hour education requirement prescribed by the National Association of State Boards of Accountancy and the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants. You may register with the Institute if you wrote all parts of the uniform CPA examination or the normal qualifying examination(s) of the recognized accounting body while not a resident, and not having been a resident, of Canada for a period of three continuous years immediately prior to writing the examinations. If you meet these requirements, you will be exempted from the education and examination requirements for the CA qualification program in Ontario. You will only be required to take the CA Reciprocity Examination (CARE).

        To obtain membership in the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Ontario, you must have a total of three years of accounting experience assessed by the Institute as being equivalent to experience of an entry-level Chartered Accountant in Ontario. The Institute will assess your previously obtained accounting experience and determine whether you have acquired the depth and breadth of competencies and the levels of proficiency for the competencies that are required of an entry-level Chartered Accountant in Ontario. The competency requirements for CA qualification are grouped into six competency areas:

        • Performance Measurement and Reporting
        • Assurance
        • Taxation
        • Governance, Strategy and Risk Management
        • Management Decision-Making
        • Finance

        The specific competencies that have been identified within each of the six competency areas are described in detail in the Institute’s CA Practical Experience Requirements 2007.

        Qualifying practical experience is defined in terms of both the duration of the practical experience (i.e. the number of years) and the breadth and depth of competency development during the period(s) of practical experience. The minimum term of accounting experience that an applicant must have completed is three years. To meet the depth of competency development requirement, you must demonstrate all of the specific competencies within one or the other of:

        • Performance Measurement and Reporting, or
        • Assurance.

        To meet the breadth of competency development requirement, you must demonstrate at least one-half (50 per cent) of the specific competencies in at least two of the five other competencies.
        The Recognized Accounting Bodies are:


        The Institutes of Chartered Accountants of:

        * Australia
        * England and Wales
        * Ireland
        * New Zealand (members must be admitted after December 1977)
        * Scotland
        * South Africa



        Hong Kong Institute of Certified Public Accountants having completed the Qualifying Program (Professional Program and Final Professional Examination) after December 2001

        The Japanese Institute of Certified Public Accountants

        Ordre des experts comptables et des comptables agréés, France

        The Institute des Reviseurs dEnterprises de Belgique

        Instituto Mexicano de Contadores Publicos (members must be admitted after December 1997)

        The Netherlands Institute of Register Accountants

        Any State Boards of Accountancy with
        CA-CPA Reciprocity in the United States of America which exempt Ontario CAs from the requirement to pass the AICPA final examination and have adopted the 150 hour education requirement prescribed by the National Association of State Boards of Accountancy and the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • Passed UFE, get my 30 months and 2500 hours. Expect to have CA this month. FInally I can call myself MAcc. CA. 7 years' hard working finally paid off.
      If anyone is interested in getting CA at samll firm, I am willing to give a simple summary of my experience.
      • Congratulations !!!! 7 years, wow amazing.
      • 恭喜拉,能分享一下经验么?谢谢~
        • drink too much this weekend. Promise this Mon or Tue
          • :)
          • Expected your experience sharing
      • Congratulations!!!!
    • congratulations...
      • anybody is going to write UFE next year???
        looking for a study buddy :)
      • I'm writing CKE in January and hopefully will write SOA and UFE in next summer.
    • 能具体讲讲考完AICPA,如果只有中国学历,需要那些考试才能拿到CA呢?谢谢了
    • 我的天呀,没有最强,只有更强。恭喜你。